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WoW.png This WRG Member is a Descendant of the Whitneys of Whitney.

My Whitney Line

1)

  • Baldwin Whitney, m. ..... Pitchard
  • Eustace Whitney, m. ..... Clamvow
  • Robert Whitney, m. ..... Russell
  • Robert Whitney
  • Eustace Whitney, m. ..... Parr
  • Robert Whitney, m. ..... Rogers
  • James Whitney, m. Blanche Milbourne
  • Robert Whitney, m. Margaret Wye
  • Robert Whitney, m. Sybil Baskerville
  • Eustace Whitney, m. Margaret Vaughn
  • Robert Whitney, m. Anne Lucy
  • Anne Whitney, m. Thomas Rodd
  • Robert Rodd, m. Anna Sophia Neale
  • Frances Rodd, m. Alexander How
  • Alexander How, m. Martha .....
  • William How, m. Susanna Virtue
  • Henry How, m. Elizabeth Harriet Fisher
  • Matilda How, m. William Mathews
  • Elizabeth Harriet Mathews, m. William James Grigg
  • Reginald Arthur Grigg, m. 'Lily' Elizabeth Fisher
  • Elsie Vera May Grigg, m. Reginald James Arnold
  • Father
  • Myself

2)

  • Baldwin Whitney, m. ..... Pitchard
  • Eustace Whitney, m. ..... Clamvow
  • Robert Whitney, m. ..... Russell
  • Robert Whitney
  • Eustace Whitney, m. ..... Parr
  • Robert Whitney, m. ..... Rogers
  • James Whitney, m. Blanche Milbourne
  • Elizabeth Whitney, m. Thomas Morgan
  • Ann Morgan, m. Henry Carey
  • Edmund Carey, m. Mary Crocker
  • Anne Carey, m. William Uvedale
  • Lucy Uvedale, m. Thomas Neale
  • Anna Sophia Neale, m. Robert Rodd
  • Frances Rodd, m. Alexander How
  • Alexander How, m. Martha .....
  • William How, m. Susanna Virtue
  • Henry How, m. Elizabeth Harriet Fisher
  • Matilda How, m. William Mathews
  • Elizabeth Harriet Mathews, m. William James Grigg
  • Reginald Arthur Grigg, m. 'Lily' Elizabeth Fisher
  • Elsie Vera May Grigg, m. Reginald James Arnold
  • Father
  • Myself

Edit My Whitney Line

Hello. I have been working on my family tree since I was about 7 years old, scribbling down a list of names that I was so amazed that my (Great) Uncle Bert knew. My tree is mainly made up of Ag Labs from the Isle of Wight, Hampshire, England. I have a few branches off to Ireland, Cornwall, and Dorset ... and then I have my paternal grandmother's family ... the 'strange side'...

A couple of years ago I made contact with a distant relative, who had a copy of a scribbled family tree, written in the early 1900s. It went back to the 1480s. Happily it confirmed three generations I had already found on the IGI. Whilst taking all this with a pinch of salt, over the last few years I have been trying to substantiate each item on this piece of paper. One person has suggested to me that it was compiled using dates derived from Wills, and that certainly looks like the case. Maybe there was a family bible as well?

I was searching for HOW or HOWE on the internet for the nth time when I found a mention of Frances HOW nee RODD. I had found her marriage to 'my' Alexander HOW (one of a long line of Alexander HOWs!) on the IGI, but had got no further. Could 'my' Frances RODD be a co-heiress from Herefordshire? No, surely not! So I researched the RODDs, finding the very knowledgable Michael Faraday, and yes, it looks like she is the same one. Spreading out from the RODDs I have been wandering through the PRICEs, WHITNEYs, LUCYs, NEALEs, UVEDALEs, CAREYs, and BOLEYNs. All of a sudden it doesn't seem so absurd that the HOW tree that I had started off with includes/or could include the HOWE, GROBHAM, SCROPE, THYNNE and CURZON families. Frances RODD, as a 'co-heiress', albeit the youngest, could hardly be married off to just any old person from Battersea!

One of the most difficult pieces of the jigsaw has been finding the name of Frances RODD's maternal g-grandmother. Whilst meandering in my research, looking at Uvedale Tomkins PRICE, I found a fascinating letter in a copy of the 'Gentleman's Magazine' from 1817.

"... a Portrait, which from the style of the dress, always appeared to him to have been painted about the time of James the First. At the back of the Portrait is the following inscription: -- " The Lady UVEDALE, mother to Mrs. NEALE, mother to Mrs. Anne Sophia RODD, mother to Mrs Lucy PRICE, mother to Uvedale PRICE."

So, Mr U T PRICE had had a portrait of this person that I was trying so hard to name, and the letter from 1817 also wanted to know who she was! Spurred on by this information, I emailed 'Christies' and the 'National Portrait Gallery' feeling sure that I was about to crack the mystery ... but, still no luck. With more idle searching on the internet I came across a fantastic old book on-line, and this gave me my answer, and a whole lot more: 'Notices of the Family of Uvedale of Titsey, Surrey, and Wickham, Hants' by Granville Leveson Gower Esq., M.P. Published by Cox, 1865.

I imagine this book has to be the best source of UVEDALE information, and from this I have found Sir William UVEDALE (d.1652) to have married twice. 'My' Lucy UVEDALE was a daughter from his first marriage to Anne CAREY, daughter of Sir Edmund CAREY, third son of Henry, Lord Hunsdon. My 'brick wall' removed, I embarked on skipping through established peerage information - only to be faced by the surname of BOLEYN!

Now, having finally found the name of Frances RODD's g-grandmother, Anne CAREY, I have discovered what appears to be a second link to the WHITNEYs, a loop containing the SCROPE, HOW, RODD and CAREY families ... and a fascinating opportunity, which needs proving ... of linking the noble UVEDALE family with my Ag Labs on the Isle of Wight - through the CHEEK family of Mottistone! Sounds unbelievable! All in all, very exciting.

I am interested in finding out more about Frances RODD and her family. I have found some tantalising documents on British History online (bless them!) which dovetail in with a Will, and an Administration, the King of Portugal, and a Clergyman ... but, ah, my head is spinning ... the more you find out, the more confusing it gets ... genealogy is seldom straightforward! I have found a possible Will for Frances, but it does not mention anything that ties in - yet, perhaps by that point in her life it didn't need to? My aim is to explore further documents surrounding Frances, her two sisters Lucy PRICE and Anna Sophia WARDOUR, and her parents; with the vain hope that somewhere along the line I'll find a tangent which explains away some of my HOW problems! No doubt I will find something else even more extraordinary! (Well, that would be the BOLEYN connection!)

27 Feb 2008 (updated 29 Sep 2008)


NOTES

the Will of Alexander Howe, Husbandman of West Buckland, Somerset: 28 Nov 1592 - PROB 11/80 National Archives, Kew

the Will of John Howe, Yeoman of West Buckland, Somerset: 13 Feb 1626 - PROB 11/148 National Archives, Kew

"Alexander Howe of Devon, Exeter College, matriculated 20 Jan 1597/8, aged 15; BA from Corpus Christi College, 7 June 1602, MA 2 May 1606, BD 25 May 1615; rector of Draycott, Staffordshire, 1614; vicar of Carswell [Caverswall], 1618; canon of Lichfield, 1627." from: Joseph Foster's 'Alumni Oxoniensis'.

"Joyce Browne (bapt at Caverswall 15 June 1628; dead 1665?) mar. Alexander Howe + (dead 1669) ex'or under John Browne's will 1665. Issue: Alexander Howe, Joyce Howe, Ellin Howe, Sarah Howe (legatees under their grandfather Ralph Browne's Will 1669 who bequeathed £20 to be equally divided between them.)+ Probably a son of the Rev Alexander Howe BA who was Vicar of Caverswall in 1620." from: 'Miscellanea Genealogica Et Heraldica - Second Series', page 8, edited by Joseph J Howard 2001 Adamant Media Corporation.

"Vol. xxiv. p. 106. The Humble Petition of Divers Merchants, Masters of Shipps, and others, who have Susteyned Losses by the Portugalls." from: 'State Papers, 1655: March (2 of 8)', A collection of the State Papers of John Thurloe, volume 3: December 1654 - August 1655 (1742), pp. 195-219. - British History Online

the Will of Alexander How, Gentleman of Battersea, Surrey: 15 Mar 1682/18 Jan 168(5)? - PROB 11/384 National Archives, Kew

"Howe's Petition referred to Judges. The Petition of Alexander How, an Infant, by Frances How Widow." from: 'House of Lords Journal Volume 18: 21 February 1707', Journal of the House of Lords: volume 18: 1705-1709 (1802), pp. 247-49. - British History Online

the Administration of Alexander How of Battersea: 1710 - PROB 5/3021 National Archives, Kew

the Will of Frances How, Widow, of Poplar: 9 May 1735 - PROB 11/671 National Archives, Kew

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