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Samuel Whitney Descendant

Tim,

Tara posted this on my message page. Can you oblige?

"Could you put kit #92676 up on the web for my brother and I. I am not sure how to get the results on the web page. Thanks. You and Tim are doing great work!

Tara (Whitney) Bellomy"

- Robert L. Ward - Talk to me 16:00, 6 July 2007 (CDT)

Census Conflicts

Tim:

We have a problem with (at least!) the 1800 Massachusetts Census. I started to compare the "Data" column we had before with the extracts I just made from the images of the original census pages as provided by Heritage Quest Online. There are a lot of differences, some of them truly inexplicable. I have no idea how this came about, but I am quite sure that my extraction is fairly accurate.

Should we just delete the previously posted data, and rely on the new extractions? Would you check to see if the versions on Ancestry.com verify one or the other?

Also, there were several images for Hampshire Co., MA, which were not available at HQO. You can find them by searching for "not available". Would you please extract the data for those families and enter it in the appropriate place on Archive:1800 Census Extracts, Massachusetts?

Thanks!

- Robert - Talk to me 15:21, 13 July 2007 (CDT)

Response to Gus Whitney question

You left the following comment on my page:

I found the following. Is this the right family?

1930 U.S. Census, Livingston, Polk Co., TX

Gus Whitney, aged 57, born in Iowa, a building carpenter, divorced

son Barnett, aged 22, born in TX, an automobile mechanic

son Louis, aged 18, born in TX

- Tim Doyle - Talk to me 16:58, 28 May 2007 (CDT)

RESPONSE

Yes, this is the right family. son Barnett is my grandfather. Note that Gus listed Iowa as his birthplace. On an earlier census he listed Texas. From what my grandfather told me, there was a concern about telling people the family was German during the period of the WW's. I can't blame them, but it makes it awful hard to follow.

Iowa, specifically, Keokuk, may be where one of the older sisters - Anna - ended up. I have found an Anna Whitney working as a servant there. Have to be close to where we tie into the Whitney family. Strange that this is an adoption line, not a true Whitney line, isn't it?

And, saw your page, wow. Thanks for even noticing the post and looking.

Gus

Census Conflicts II

Tim:

As an example of the census conflicts I mentioned between Archive:1800 Census Index, Massachusetts and Archive:1800 Census Extracts, Massachusetts, the first alphabetically is Aaron Whitney, Sherborn, Middlesex Co.:

  Old                                New
  p. 251  01010/10101/00             p. 252   10101/01010/00.

For another, randomly chosen, example, I tried Ebenezer Whitney. There were three in Hampshire Co.:

  Old                                New
  p. 211  01001/20101/00             p. 927   20101/01001/00  Belchertown
  p. 285  01100/10110/00             p. 841   10110/01100/00  Hadley
  p. 48   10010/32010/00             p. 1231  32010/10010/00  Montague

It looks like the old data has reversed the male and female numbers!! It also is using a different page numbering scheme somehow. Egad!

- Robert - Talk to me 20:10, 18 July 2007 (CDT)

Census Help

Tim:

I'd appreciate an assist in two areas of my census extraction project.

1. New York, 1800: Several "not available" entries need to be filled in from Ancestry.com.

2. Massachusetts, 1810: On the second line from the top of the last page for Orange, Hampshire County, just below Nathan Whitney, there is a given name I cannot read. In the extraction and the index, I have written the name as [---].

Thanks!

- Robert L. Ward - Talk to me 12:33, 20 July 2007 (CDT)

Page/user deletion

I inadvertently created two user ids and pages. Please delete the older ones, i.e., under CurtWhitney. Thank you. Curtwhitney

Census Progress

Tim:

I have finished extracting the censuses from 1790 through 1820. Heritage Quest Online doesn't yet have 1830 through 1850, nor 1930, on-line. I am not planning on starting 1860 through 1920, which they do have on-line, although I am willing to look up individual items.

I think I'll try to analyze the ones I've posted, creating links to and from family group records where they exist. Perhaps I'll create some family group records for families in the census which I can't identify.

- Robert - Talk to me 16:03, 27 July 2007 (CDT)

Census Link

Tim:

The link is to Nathaniel Whitney's page for Nathaniel's unmarried son Amos, who doesn't have a page of his own.

- Robert - Talk to me 15:03, 1 August 2007 (CDT)

1790 Census Images

Tim:

I am noticing that even the 1790 census images I am reading have confused Whitney with Whiting in several places. The handwriting in the images is clearly Whitney, but the individuals are surely Whiting men. For an example, consider "John Lake Whitney", Shrewsbury, MA, page 544. The image is crystal clear, and the reading is unmistakable. I can't find anyone by that name, but there was definitely a John Lake Whiting in the Shrewsbury VRs, who m. 27 Aug 1782, Olive Wyman, and recorded two children there.

I can only conclude that the pages of which we are seeing images are copies of some originals, now lost, and that the unknown copyists made the errors. The fact that some townships have their entries alphabetized by last name initial supports the hypothesis of a copying (and rearranging) at some point. I confess that I was not aware of this.

Additionally, there could be indexing errors. I found one example where the index showed Whittne, one of our variant spellings, but the image showed Whitten, a different family. There were other kinds of errors, too.

This means that even the images we are using are not primary sources. That has some unfortunate consequences. One is that we may have to go through the indices and images again for the Whiting surname, looking for stray Whitney individuals! Sorting them out from the real Whitings is a task I wouldn't look forward to! It could involve compiling a family tree of the three Whiting families (descendants of Samuel, Nathaniel, and William Whiting, immigrants) down to 1790. This is not to mention the Whiton or Whitten families.

I know you have encountered the same phenomenon with one of your own Whitney ancestors, listed in the census as Whiting.

- Robert - Talk to me 09:27, 2 August 2007 (CDT)

1790 Heads

Tim:

Thanks for creating the list you did. It should be very helpful, however, it must be incomplete, because the Henry descendants have only been carried down to the fifth generation. There will be some sixth generation ones who would qualify but don't yet have family group records. I have already had to create such a page for Sherwood⁶ Whitney to accommodate one census entry from Vermont, no doubt there will be more from New York, and I may have missed some from Connecticut, Massachusetts, and Vermont.

I could go through the sixth generation from Phoenix and create pages I think would qualify, and then add them to your list. Probably I should do that next before continuing with the 1790 links.

If you'd like to check off the ones on your list we have identified, that would be good. You could add the place we found them, with a link to the appropriate 1790/91 census extract. I think this would be a great addition to our suite of census pages, with similar ones for each census year. For the time being, I don't see doing more that just 1790/91, but certainly we would want to have a similar thing for 1800 through 1820, at least. With Heritage Quest Online, I can do searches for those years by first name only, which could turn up some missing folks hiding under Whiting or other (mis-)spellings.

What do you think about creating a Research: namespace for this and other pages we are using for that kind of purpose?

By the way, do you have any idea who Family:Whitney, Joshua (c1746-1816) could be? All of the Joshua Whitney men I have born in the 1740s seem to be otherwise accounted for. Do we have any DNA evidence from descendants of Calvin or Haynes to point us anywhere?

- Robert - Talk to me 09:39, 5 August 2007 (CDT)

Localities

Tim:

Agreed that the Localities page should be as you suggest. That makes a good deal of work making sure that all pages are properly categorized, but worth it in the long run.

- Robert - Talk to me 10:37, 9 August 2007 (CDT)

Census Volunteers

Tim:

I see that we have a new volunteer to help with census work, Carol Whitney Cook. I'll be glad to ask her if she has access to Ancestry.com, to make the new indexes and extractions from the 1830, 1840, and 1850 censuses, with your approval. Somehow we should split that work up between her and Andaleen Whitney. If you prefer, you can organize the two of them and yourself to do that. I'm plenty busy identifying the census entries with family groups, and then reformatting the family group pages encountered in the process.

- Robert - Talk to me 10:37, 9 August 2007 (CDT)

Locality Categories

Tim:

It sounds like you're doing a good thing. I approve. I hope that, when you find a misspelling, you either manually correct it on the appropriate page(s), or set the robot to do that, too. Also be on the look-out for erroneous county assignments. It could be, for example, that Charlestown would be listed under both Suffolk and Middlesex Counties, MA, when only Middlesex is correct.

- Robert - Talk to me 11:15, 9 August 2007 (CDT)

Killlingly 1790 Census

Tim:

If you give me the page number, I can look at Heritage Quest Online to see if they have the image of that page for Cornelius Whiting. FamilySearch.org lists only one Cornelius Whiting, of Wrentham, MA, who died as an infant, and the birth of the Cornelius Whitney in question, erroneously listed under Whiting:

   CORNEULIUS WHITING
       Male

 Event(s):
       Birth:  05 JUL 1749    Killingly Twp, Windham, Connecticut
       Christening:
       Death:
       Burial:

 Parents:
       Father:  MATETHYAS WHITING
       Mother:  ALLIS

I conclude that any records for a Cornelius Whiting at this time period, and especially in this place, must refer to this Cornelius Whitney instead.

- Robert - Talk to me 10:13, 10 August 2007 (CDT)

Hi Tim - thanks for the pointing me in Al's direction. I stumbled across him last night and we have been in contact. Great web site - thanks

Odd Error

Tim:

I noticed that on Archive:The Whitney Family of Connecticut, page 698 at the bottom, the "Next Page" link is not working, and I can't figure out why. Can you?

- Robert L. Ward- Talk to me 12:15, 14 August 2007 (CDT)

DNA

Tim I am still learning how to use the wiki so may not have replied to your message about someone of Joshua's lineage contributing. I have since then completed a DNA test and the results are posted.

I also have some information about my lineage beyond what is in Pierce. How do I post it on the appropriate page?

Delbert Edward Whitney & Vernon Delbert Whitney heritage

Thank you for the information. I do not know how to find the web site that has this family heritage. Can you help me. I really appreciate it. Bobbie Whitney Van Meter

MA Tax Lists

Tim:

Those look very interesting. It would be even better if the microfilms were available locally, and/or were indexed. They could answer some of our questions about when heads of households died or moved from one location to another. They could be especially valuable for Maine, where many vital records are missing.

- Robert - Talk to me 12:24, 20 August 2007 (CDT)

Potentials for 1800

Tim:

I used TMG to create a list of possible heads of household for 1800 from my databases. I found a much longer list than the one on the web page. Most of them would be under the category "Probably dead". Many of them would also be on a similar list for 1790. As you have no doubt noticed, I have been creating family group records for some families that didn't already have one. My new list includes those and quite a few others. Obviously, I have a lot of work to do! Do you want me to add names to the web page for potentials in 1790/1800, and create their pages, even if they are probably dead?

- Robert L. Ward - Talk to me 21:05, 20 August 2007 (CDT)

I have added to the web page the names beginning with A from my list. You see that there are several, and may extrapolate to the other letters of the alphabet.

- Robert L. Ward - Talk to me 18:09, 22 August 2007 (CDT)

Census Identification Project

Tim:

Yes, it's worthwhile. If nothing else, we are finding and correcting lots of errors in the indexes and in the "original" images which might baffle other researchers. It might be hard for someone to find Darling Whitney hiding among the Whiteman entries, Elnathan Whitney filed under Elenor, or Isaiah listed as Israel.

We are also tracing migrations of families from place to place. On this point, the more years we do this for, the more benefits to the web site and the users of it.

How shall we get transcriptions of the 1830 census?

- Robert - Talk to me 18:33, 22 August 2007 (CDT)

1800 Census, Boston, MA

Tim:

FYI: The 1800 Census of Boston no longer exists. We'll have missed some folks living there. Also parts of Rockingham and Strafford Cos., NH, are gone, and York Co., ME, is incomplete.

- Robert - Talk to me 13:21, 24 August 2007 (CDT)

Thanks Tim for the edit tips...it looks much better now.

Carol

Uploading photos

I have tried to add photo to photo list but don't seem to be able to do so...the photo is in my edits section...Help

1771 Tax List

Tim:

I found on-line the preface to The Massachusetts Tax Valuation List of 1771. Among other things, it reveals that roughly half of the list is lost. Apparently Watertown was among the lost part. Obviously any people who "should" appear and don't may have been on other parts no longer extant.

I tried hard to capture alternate spellings of the surname, except I didn't mess with the Whitings. This was a computer typeface, so I didn't have to read the handwriting, but the transcribers did. Furthermore, if the "originals" were actually copies, as we found with the census, there is a further chance for error.

I was gratified to find my Gershom⁴ Whitney in Ware, MA, and learned much about his household. His father Joshua³ must have died just before the list was made, but his widow doesn't appear. Apparently he disposed of his estate earlier, and she was living with relatives, possibly Gershom himself.

- Robert - Talk to me 06:28, 31 August 2007 (CDT)

Doctor John

Tim:

It is obvious that Dr. John⁴ Whitney moved around a lot. All is as I believe to be correct, with the exception of his son Nathaniel⁵. See Archive:NEHGR, Volume 79 for him. The date of marriage and the dates of birth and baptism of the other children make it hard to place him among them. I suppose it's possible that Dr. John either had two wives at the same time, one in Eastham and one in Nantucket/York, or else he fathered a child out of wedlock by Margaret, and then married her later. Another possibility is that Seth, of whom we have no further record beyond his birth, was renamed Nathaniel. Another possibility is that the guardianship record is faulty, and got the name of the younger son wrong.

I don't know how to reconcile the records. I tried to fit Nathaniel in in 1744, but that's obviously a problem.

- Robert - Talk to me - 06:48, 31 August 2007 (CDT)

1771 Tax List, II

Tim:

Good job on the tax list! I did try to identify the missing 1771 men:

• "Two men named Charles." Got them.
• "Three men named John." Got the one in Gorham, ME. The two nonresidents could be anyone from, say, Watertown. I actually have five different candidates for these two, and no way to tell which they might be.
• "Three men named Moses. Note that the Moses in Gorham could be either of two men." Got the one in New Salem. The one in Gorham I believe I have right. The other was probably in Falmouth in 1771. The Chesterfield man seems to be young, but I can't place him, although I have a few candidates.
• "Three men named Samuel." Got them.
• "Two individuals with no name (-----)." I really can't figure out how to identify these. Probably there's a better chance with the widow from Boston, but still not good.

As for me, I have finished the 1800 Census Potential Heads list, and am also faced with many unidentified entries in that census. I am still working on them, but there will be quite a few that I won't know.

- Robert - Talk to me 19:49, 1 September 2007 (CDT)

Page Moves

Tim:

Your idea of using a bot to do this kind of work is excellent. Recall that sometimes more than one link to the same page can be found on one page, so your bot should take that into account.

- Robert - Talk to me 09:07, 4 September 2007 (CDT)

It should also remove the line from the renamed page which calls the rename template.

- Robert - Talk to me 13:16, 4 September 2007 (CDT)

Jabez Whitney of Orange

Tim:

My guess is that the "Ly" Whitney from the Jones Cemetery is a reading of "[SAL]LY" Whitney on a broken or eroded gravestone. That doesn't explain the census records, but there are many alternative explanations of those.

- Robert - Talk to me 10:34, 5 September 2007 (CDT)

Sally versus Ly

Tim:

The fact that the town record of death and the cemetery record from her stone differ by exactly 1 year and 1 day makes me believe that the two refer to the same event, with recording variations. I oppose splitting the two. You could add a section under "Notes" explaining the alternate theories. I would not oppose that.

- Robert - Talk to me 10:55, 5 September 2007 (CDT)

Pierce Conversion Project

Tim:

I see that there are two files with that as part of the title which have a huge number of links each. I have had to patrol many edits made on them by the Rename Bot, to no apparent benefit. Since the project is over, and the only other pages that link to this group are your and my User_talk pages, it seems we could delete them. Alternatively, we could edit them severely, cutting down drastically on the links to Family pages. Thoughts?

- Robert - Talk to me 14:28, 5 September 2007 (CDT)

Hello Cousin

So far I have been able to trace my Whitney lineage to Zachariah, but not sure how he ties in exactly to John Whitney. I don't have a lot of information on my Whitney side as of yet, although I am sure I'll find more. I've been doing my family tree for almost a year now and still on the Gove side...which is on my mother's father's side. Have done almost nothing on my father's side, or my mother's mother's side of the family yet! It's quite a long, exhaustive, but utterly fascinating and fun process! I'm hoping to learn all I can. Rick

Very cool....I just noticed that about the same time that your second message came in. That is so very fascinating! Every time I find out something new I get even more excited. Thanks for pointing it out to me!

Descendant List

Tim:

The idea is interesting, but I foresee a problem. On what pages would you put (for example) your name? You put it only on Erastus's page, but you could have put it on all the pages for your direct ancestors.

If you did that, John¹ Whitney's page would have a very long list. That would be bad, in my opinion.

If you didn't do that, you'd have to make an executive decision on which pages to put your name and which not. I don't think that that's something a bot could do, so a person would have to be involved in every such decision. That makes the work prohibitive.

- Robert - Talk to me 14:46, 10 September 2007 (CDT)

Samuel of Woodbury

Tim:

Phoenix, p. 84, places Samuel Whitney of Woodbury, who m. Sarah -----, as a child of Elijah and Rebecca (Seymour) Whitney, and a descendant of Henry¹. Sandiford places him as a child of Enoch and Thankful (Parke) Whitney, and a descendant of John¹. I have no information which corroborates or contradicts either theory. How should we handle this?

- Robert - Talk to me 18:11, 11 September 2007 (CDT)

Census

Hi Tim - I've changed my state to Ohio. Glad I got the message as I'm on my way to the library, WVU has ancestry.library edition, I'm going to use that to generate my list and will then use Heritage Quest to retrieve info. You can zap Iowa. Thanks much.

Carol

Robot

I'm using Internet Explorer. I added an extra line between the individual in 1880 Census Extract, Alabama and that separated the individuals again. Before, they were all appearing on one very long line that wrapped around. --Andaleen 16:26, 13 September 2007 (CDT)

Disambiguation Pages

Tim:

I notice on Wikipedia they make use of "disambiguation pages", especially for various people with the same name. That could be a good idea for us, I think, because we have so many groups of people with the same name. Suppose I'm looking for a Samuel Whitney, but I don't know his birth and death years. If I could go to a disambiguation page named "Samuel Whitney", and there find a list of all the ones we know, with links to the appropriate family group records, this could be very useful. Each entry on that page could give a little more information on the individual to help the selection process. We could cross-reference nicknames, e.g., the page for "Mary Whitney" could say "See also Molly Whitney and Polly Whitney," and vice versa. Thoughts?

- Robert - Talk to me 08:19, 15 September 2007 (CDT)

Children Without Their Own Pages

Tim:

It seems to me, that if you can generate the disambiguation pages automatically, you could also program a bot to do the following:

1. Go through the whole Family: namespace, picking out pages of Whitney males.
2. On each page, look for a table immediately following a line beginning with "Child of " or "Children of ".
3. Collect the names of children from the table, ignoring those whose names are links.
4. Collect the name of the child and the name of the page on which it appears.
5. Create a line of the form "* Whitney, XXXXX, child of [[Family:Whitney, XXXXX (XXXX-XXXX)|Whitney, XXXXX (XXXX-XXXX)]]".
6. Sort the list by given name, then by birth year of the father.
7. Append the names to the disambiguation pages.

Perhaps you don't want to do this. Perhaps some variant of the above would be better.

Thoughts?

- Robert - Talk to me 17:46, 16 September 2007 (CDT)

data

Hi Tim - I have posted some 1830 Ohio census records....it doesn't quite look like it should. If you give me some hints I will edit the page so that it appears as it should. Thanks much.

Carol

Two Asa Whitneys

Tim:

I have been trying to place the Asa Whitney who appears in the 1800 Census at Lisle, Tioga Co., NY. His age is over 45, so he must have been born before 1755. There are three such persons of which I am aware who are reasonable candidates, all of the fifth generation from John¹:

1. Family:Whitney, Asa (1743-1803)
2. Family:Whitney, Asa (1745-a1810)
3. Asa, son of Enoch Whitney, b. 10 Jul 1742, Preston, CT.

I concur with the identification of the first. It is the second who I believe is confused with the third.

Number 2 was born in Killingly, and we find him in the censuses of 1790, 1800, and 1810 in Killingly. The fact that his children were allegedly born in Cornwall seems anomalous. I think Number 2 remained in Killingly, married, and had children born there, but not recorded.

Number 3 was born in Preston, but when he was young, his father moved to Kent. His brothers lived in Washington and Warren, CT. All these places are in Litchfield Co., as is Cornwall. I think it was Number 3 who married Abigail Brownson and had the two children in Cornwall.

Furthermore, it must have been Number 3 who appears in Lisle in 1800, since Number 2 and Number 1 are both accounted for.

Do you concur?

- Robert - Talk to me 19:27, 16 September 2007 (CDT)

Pierce Errors Continuing

Tim:

I add to the Pierce Errors page whenever I find an error that I can document. Of the two confused Asa Whitney individuals, Enoch's son was completely missed by Pierce. Matthias's son already has a correction attached to his name, but I need to fix that since it really applies to Enoch's son.

I was aware of my former e-mail message, which applies, but is not helpful in straightening out the lineages. Thanks for mentioning it, however. I also found on-line a history of Triangle, NY, which says that Asa Whitney was one of the early settlers there. This must be the one in Lisle in 1800. He's there in 1820, but I can't find him in 1810. It may be that Lisle is missing from the 1810 schedules, since I can't find anyone in that Town.

On checking for this possibility, I found the following book: The Census Book, by William Dollarhide. It explains about the copying, recopying, and loss of various census record groups. I found it enlightening.

By the way, this is an example of something we discovered because of the Census Identification Project.

- Robert - Talk to me 21:14, 16 September 2007 (CDT)

Hi Tim - Whew, I've had quite a time trying to get the correct spacing between individuals....hope you can help. I have stopped editing so you can do your thing. Thanks.

Carol

Census

Hi Tim - I see you've completed your edit. Now I can't seem to find a way to add spaces between the individuals! Should I recopy my info from word? I'm also going back to the library to look up the three individuals in bold, the pages didn't copy or aren't readable in Heritage Quest. I'm also signing up to do Pennsylvania. Thanks. Carol

Census

Internet Explorer...not sure what version.

Fixing Broken Links

Tim:

You may have noticed that I have been trying to fix a lot of broken links. I found a page with which I cannot deal, and which contains several: Template talk:Divbox. Can you help?

- Robert - Talk to me 13:59, 17 September 2007 (CDT)

Josiah Corrections?

Tim:

I was looking at the Lancaster Vital Records, and found the marriage of Elisabeth Whetney and Josiah Whetney on 24 Apr 1733. Very soon thereafter, I visited the page of Isaiah Whitney, and saw that he married one Elizabeth Whitney "about 1733", and had first child born 23 Jan 1733/4, almost exactly nine months later.

Is there any reason to doubt that the marriage record is in error, and the groom wasn't Josiah, but Isaiah?

There is also a problem with Josiah Whitney "late of Dedham" marrying Elizabeth Grant. It seems that this is another error, this time in the Weston vital records. The groom was actually Josiah³ Whiting, born 30 May 1701, Dedham, MA, son of Samuel² and Sarah (Metcalf) Whiting [Nathaniel¹]. They had seven children recorded in Weston, including two recorded as "Whitney" and five as "Whiting".

Do you agree, and should I go ahead with making appropriate changes?

- Robert - Talk to me 22:36, 17 September 2007 (CDT)

Dublin, NH, and Stamford, VT

Tim:

I can't identify any of the Whitneys you list in Dublin. The only Bascom Whitney I know of was only 11 years old at the time of this warning-out. It could be an otherwise unknown uncle of him, but otherwise I'm clueless.

Are you going to add the extracts from the history book to our Extracts?

Yes, Isaac of Stamford could well be who you suggest, but I have nothing to add to the discussion.

- Robert - Talk to me 07:47, 19 September 2007 (CDT)

Isaac (again)

Tim:

Sure, go ahead. Also explain the logic behind the connection, please.

- Robert - Talk to me 08:25, 19 September 2007 (CDT)

Samuel of Halifax Co., NC, 1790

Tim:

User:Tara_767 left me this message: User_talk:Rlward#1790_Census. We don't have a page for either him or his father, I believe. See, however, Michael Ray Whitney's page about him.

- Robert - Talk to me 19:25, 19 September 2007 (CDT)

Family Pages

Tim,

I tried to go in and correct the date formatting errors I had made, but it looks like you have already changed most of them. Thank you.

Trouble with Patrolling

Tim:

I can't patrol this file: Archive:1880 Census Index, Illinois. I don't know what the problem might be.

- Robert - Talk to me 18:26, 23 September 2007 (CDT)

I have a plethora...

of information regarding the William Whitney line in Louisiana. I'm sure you noticed that I'm not what one could consider "well versed" at adding it to this site (grin). Cynthia Daigle, a distant cousin of mine by marriage, also forwarded an email sometime back that stated:

email excerpt from Alicia, July 2006 my Dad who is 93 in Oct. submitted his DNA to a group that has a data pool. The results : we are related to the John & Elenor Whitney from Mass. It still leaves about 100 years to get to them........our broken link is Ky.

I phoned Patricia Whitney Gravois today in the hope that she has the missing marraige certificate information for William Whitney and Sara Compton, but from what I understand William's parents weren't listed anyway.

If I were to take the time to put all of the South Lousiana Records by Father Hebert, as well as the family information that I have "from family", would you like me to send it to you? That way you can enter it into this website much more quickly, and much more professionally than I. If no, no biggie, I'll get around to doing it in an effort to lend a hand to others, but I feel fairly certain you'll be traipsing along behind me, cleaning up my messes.

Thank you for assisting in the creation of this site. While it didn't help me, as others apparently haven't gotten past the same brick wall, it certainly "will" help when, if ever, we figure out that missing century.

Chris Jarvis

Census

How do you go in and add to the 1830 Census Indexes? I have added data, but is there a template to make the data look uniform? Thanks.

Tara

"Missing" Templates

Tim:

I think your templates such as "Missing1790" could all be combined into a one template called, say, "Missing", and make it such that you pass the year YYYY as a parameter, and it creates the string

"* YYYY: not found."

Then you would just call {{Missing|1790}} for example.

- Robert - Talk to me 12:39, 28 September 2007 (CDT)

Genealogy.DunnNet.com

I had to smile. The page you directed me to with William John & Sarah Ellen (Yazel) Whitney. Yep. I've seen it many many times. William went by the name John and they were my GG Grandparents and my Grandmother was a Whitney. The web site is my own :) Thanks for the try though. I appreciate that people are checking it out and hopefully gaining some insight to their own research. I spend a large percentage of my time in census records and that was one of the reasons i dropped by here today. Thanks again. and Happy Hunting. Herb Dunn

Martha/Matilda

Tim,

Jeanne and I have been discussing this issue. All census records that we are able to find show Matilda to be Martha. We have not been able to locate Martha Red, but it may be possible that Martha Red and Martha Buckhalter are the same Martha. I am still working on it. I will re-check the sources and let you know. Thank you for reminding me to check on it.

Tara_767

Martha/Matilda

Tim,

I have checked census records with Wyley Buckhalter, note spelling, of Barnwell 1850 and she is listed as Martha. They do have a daughter named Matilda and it is very likely that the census taker could have been confused and noted her as Martha instead of Matilda. It could also be possible that both Marthas exist and one is the daughter of Macon and the other may be the daughter of Malcolm. At this point I will really need to check other documentation to be sure. Thanks.

tara_767